NIFTY 5022,500125.30(0.56%)
SENSEX74,200412.50(0.56%)
BANK NIFTY48,300210.40(0.43%)
TATA MOTORS780.0012.45(1.62%)
INFOSYS1,520.0018.20(1.18%)
WIPRO475.005.60(1.19%)
RELIANCE2,890.0034.50(1.21%)
TCS3,650.0028.10(0.76%)
HDFC BANK1,580.0015.20(0.97%)
ICICI BANK1,120.008.90(0.80%)
SBI820.005.30(0.64%)
BHARTI AIRTEL1,650.0022.80(1.40%)
HUL2,380.0012.40(0.52%)
ITC445.003.20(0.72%)
KOTAK BANK1,780.0014.60(0.83%)
LT3,420.0045.20(1.30%)
AXIS BANK1,080.009.50(0.89%)
BAJAJ FINANCE7,200.0085.40(1.20%)
MARUTI12,400150.00(1.19%)
ASIAN PAINTS2,850.0018.90(0.67%)
HCLTECH1,420.0016.30(1.14%)
TITAN3,250.0042.60(1.33%)
ADANI PORTS1,380.0022.40(1.60%)
POWER GRID310.004.80(1.57%)
NTPC365.006.20(1.73%)
SUNPHARMA1,680.008.50(0.50%)
NIFTY 5022,500125.30(0.56%)
SENSEX74,200412.50(0.56%)
BANK NIFTY48,300210.40(0.43%)
TATA MOTORS780.0012.45(1.62%)
INFOSYS1,520.0018.20(1.18%)
WIPRO475.005.60(1.19%)
RELIANCE2,890.0034.50(1.21%)
TCS3,650.0028.10(0.76%)
HDFC BANK1,580.0015.20(0.97%)
ICICI BANK1,120.008.90(0.80%)
SBI820.005.30(0.64%)
BHARTI AIRTEL1,650.0022.80(1.40%)
HUL2,380.0012.40(0.52%)
ITC445.003.20(0.72%)
KOTAK BANK1,780.0014.60(0.83%)
LT3,420.0045.20(1.30%)
AXIS BANK1,080.009.50(0.89%)
BAJAJ FINANCE7,200.0085.40(1.20%)
MARUTI12,400150.00(1.19%)
ASIAN PAINTS2,850.0018.90(0.67%)
HCLTECH1,420.0016.30(1.14%)
TITAN3,250.0042.60(1.33%)
ADANI PORTS1,380.0022.40(1.60%)
POWER GRID310.004.80(1.57%)
NTPC365.006.20(1.73%)
SUNPHARMA1,680.008.50(0.50%)
NIFTY 5022,500125.30(0.56%)
SENSEX74,200412.50(0.56%)
BANK NIFTY48,300210.40(0.43%)
TATA MOTORS780.0012.45(1.62%)
INFOSYS1,520.0018.20(1.18%)
WIPRO475.005.60(1.19%)
RELIANCE2,890.0034.50(1.21%)
TCS3,650.0028.10(0.76%)
HDFC BANK1,580.0015.20(0.97%)
ICICI BANK1,120.008.90(0.80%)
SBI820.005.30(0.64%)
BHARTI AIRTEL1,650.0022.80(1.40%)
HUL2,380.0012.40(0.52%)
ITC445.003.20(0.72%)
KOTAK BANK1,780.0014.60(0.83%)
LT3,420.0045.20(1.30%)
AXIS BANK1,080.009.50(0.89%)
BAJAJ FINANCE7,200.0085.40(1.20%)
MARUTI12,400150.00(1.19%)
ASIAN PAINTS2,850.0018.90(0.67%)
HCLTECH1,420.0016.30(1.14%)
TITAN3,250.0042.60(1.33%)
ADANI PORTS1,380.0022.40(1.60%)
POWER GRID310.004.80(1.57%)
NTPC365.006.20(1.73%)
SUNPHARMA1,680.008.50(0.50%)
NIFTY 5022,500125.30(0.56%)
SENSEX74,200412.50(0.56%)
BANK NIFTY48,300210.40(0.43%)
TATA MOTORS780.0012.45(1.62%)
INFOSYS1,520.0018.20(1.18%)
WIPRO475.005.60(1.19%)
RELIANCE2,890.0034.50(1.21%)
TCS3,650.0028.10(0.76%)
HDFC BANK1,580.0015.20(0.97%)
ICICI BANK1,120.008.90(0.80%)
SBI820.005.30(0.64%)
BHARTI AIRTEL1,650.0022.80(1.40%)
HUL2,380.0012.40(0.52%)
ITC445.003.20(0.72%)
KOTAK BANK1,780.0014.60(0.83%)
LT3,420.0045.20(1.30%)
AXIS BANK1,080.009.50(0.89%)
BAJAJ FINANCE7,200.0085.40(1.20%)
MARUTI12,400150.00(1.19%)
ASIAN PAINTS2,850.0018.90(0.67%)
HCLTECH1,420.0016.30(1.14%)
TITAN3,250.0042.60(1.33%)
ADANI PORTS1,380.0022.40(1.60%)
POWER GRID310.004.80(1.57%)
NTPC365.006.20(1.73%)
SUNPHARMA1,680.008.50(0.50%)
Topic 3 of 3~5 min read

Fee Justification Math — When PMS Fees Make Sense

Definition

PMS fee structures (typically 2-2.5% management + 15-20% performance over 8-12% hurdle) are economically justified when the PMS's gross alpha exceeds the all-in fee load over rolling 5-year windows. The math is unforgiving — a typical PMS must deliver 4-5% gross alpha for net-of-fee value to materialise. Many India PMS managers do not consistently meet this bar.

In Simple Words

Worked example: PMS with 2.0% management + 18% performance over 10% hurdle, high-water mark. Year scenarios: Year 1 portfolio returns 22% (Nifty 12%) → gross alpha 10%. Management fee 2.0%, performance fee 18% × (22%-10%) = 2.16%. Total cost 4.16%. Net to investor 17.84%. Net alpha vs Nifty 5.84%. Year 2 portfolio returns 8% (Nifty 6%) → gross alpha 2%. Management fee 2.0%, performance fee zero (below hurdle). Net to investor 6%. Net alpha vs Nifty zero. Year 3 portfolio returns -10% (Nifty -8%) → gross alpha -2%. Management fee 2.0%, performance fee zero. Net to investor -12%. Net alpha vs Nifty -4%. Across 3 years: cumulative gross 18%, cumulative fees 4.5%, cumulative Nifty 9.5%. Net cumulative for investor 13.5%. Net alpha vs Nifty 4.0% over 3 years = 1.3% annualised. Decision: marginal — fees nearly absorbed gross alpha. The PMS must consistently deliver gross alpha above the fee load; even a single year of zero or negative gross alpha materially compresses cumulative net alpha. The alternative is a low-cost diversified mutual fund (TER 0.5-1.0% for direct plans) which only requires beating Nifty by 1% to deliver competitive net outcomes. PMS fee justification math therefore requires gross alpha 4-5% — a high bar most managers do not consistently clear. This is the structural reason many India PMS allocations have been disappointing on a net basis. Trustner's framework explicitly walks investors through the fee math before subscription, ensuring they understand the bar that must be cleared for net value.

Real-Life Scenario

Two competing PMS managers in the same archetype, ₹50 lakh allocation each, 5-year evaluation period. PMS A: gross 14.5% annualised, all-in fee 3.5%, net 11.0%. Nifty 11.0%. Net alpha zero. PMS B: gross 16.8% annualised, all-in fee 3.8%, net 13.0%. Nifty 11.0%. Net alpha +2.0% annualised. Across 5 years on ₹50 lakh: PMS A net wealth ~₹84 lakh; PMS B net wealth ~₹92 lakh. PMS B's additional ₹8 lakh wealth — over 5 years — illustrates why selecting managers who deliver gross alpha well above fees matters. PMS A's headline gross of 14.5% sounds attractive, but the fee absorption leaves nothing net of benchmark. PMS B has the same archetype but better gross — and the fee load similar — so net delivered value is meaningful.

Key Points to Remember

PMS all-in fee load: typical 3.0-4.5% in good years (mgmt + performance + brokerage).
Gross alpha must exceed fee load for net value; 4-5% gross alpha is the typical bar.
Single year of zero gross alpha materially compresses cumulative net alpha.
Low-cost mutual fund alternative: TER 0.5-1.0% direct plans.
Many India PMS managers do not consistently clear the 4-5% gross alpha bar.
Worked example illustration: side-by-side competing managers, identical archetype, different gross alpha, materially different net outcomes.
Trustner walks investors through fee math before every PMS subscription.

Frequently Asked Questions

Test Your Knowledge

3 questions to check your understanding

Question 1 of 3Score: 0/0

A typical Indian PMS's all-in fee load in a good year is approximately:

Summary Notes

All-in PMS fee 3-4.5% in good years; 4-5% gross alpha needed for net value.

Fee negotiation possible at higher ticket sizes.

Always benchmark against TRI (Total Return Index) of appropriate strategy.

Trustner walks fee math through with investors before every subscription.

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